In this episode we spoke with Julie Roberts, the founder of the Therapist Neurodiversity Collective. We discussed her new book, The Gold Standard Fallacy, a critique of the ABA industry, as well as new and better approaches to autism services.

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Transcript by Julie-Ann Lee: JRoberts_Transcript_NoncompliantPodcast_

Bio
Julie Roberts, M.S., CCC-SLP, Julie Roberts, M.S., CCC-SLP, founded the Therapist Neurodiversity Collective in 2018. She is  the author of The Gold Standard Fallacy of ABA: A Reference Guide for Therapists, Educators, & Parents. She is a formally late-identified Autistic Speech-Language Pathologist (SLP) specializing in neurodiversity-paradigm-aligned approaches to therapy and education, particularly in autistic social communication.

Sources
The Shifting Landscape of Autism Services, 2023 interview with Julie Roberts on this podcast
Therapist Neurodiversity Collective
The Gold Standard Fallacy of ABA
Autism in Adulthood
Neurodiversity (Sage Journals)