Episode 47. Challenging the ABA industry: Julie Roberts of Therapist Neurodiversity Collective

In this episode we spoke with Julie Roberts, the founder of the Therapist Neurodiversity Collective. We discussed her new book, The Gold Standard Fallacy, a critique of the ABA industry, as well as new and better approaches to autism services.

Listen to the podcast by playing the audio file below, or on streaming sites like  Spotify,   ApplePodcasts,  Pandora, etc

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 the transcript, below the audio.


Transcript by Julie-Ann Lee: JRoberts_Transcript_NoncompliantPodcast_

Bio
Julie Roberts, M.S., CCC-SLP, Julie Roberts, M.S., CCC-SLP, founded the Therapist Neurodiversity Collective in 2018. She is  the author of The Gold Standard Fallacy of ABA: A Reference Guide for Therapists, Educators, & Parents. She is a formally late-identified Autistic Speech-Language Pathologist (SLP) specializing in neurodiversity-paradigm-aligned approaches to therapy and education, particularly in autistic social communication.

Sources
The Shifting Landscape of Autism Services, 2023 interview with Julie Roberts on this podcast
Therapist Neurodiversity Collective
The Gold Standard Fallacy of ABA
Autism in Adulthood
Neurodiversity (Sage Journals)

 

Episode 33. The shifting landscape of autism services: Therapist Neurodiversity Collective’s Julie Roberts

A woman with long blond hair, smiling, against a white backdrop Today I spoke with Julie Roberts, founder of Therapist Neurodiversity Collective (TNDC). We talked about the ABA industry’s troubling attempts to dominate autism services and funding, as well as the culture shift needed to increase support for neurodiversity-affirming autism supports and services.

Listen to the podcast on the audio link below. Also available on Spotify, Stitcher or iTunes.

Read the transcript below the audio link.

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Transcript by Julie-Ann Lee: Transcript_NoncompliantPodcast_JulieRoberts

Bio
Julie Roberts, a formally late-identified Autistic woman, is a Speech-Language Pathologist, neurodiversity educator and activist who founded Therapist Neurodiversity Collective in 2018 and Public School Neurodiversity Collective in 2022. Her professional experiences include private practice ownership for 7 years, and being a multi-state Clinical Director, and National Field Director of Corporate Compliance for one of the largest post-acute rehab companies in the U.S. She currently works in her favorite setting: the U.S. public school system. Julie’s articles and educational resources have reached over three-quarters of a million people.